WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.000 This week, Lifeset announced that John Henry Weston is going on a well-deserved sabbatical. 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:09.000 So on Friday morning, Google took down a traditional Catholic blog. 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Google informed the owners of the blog that they were going to a paid speech. 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:16.000 Joe Rogan's finally cut up to you on Israel and Gaza. 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:23.000 Speaking of which, the coalition, the MAG movement, does seem very divided over Epstein as well. 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:32.000 Here we go. 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:38.000 This week, Lifeset announced that John Henry Weston is going on a well-deserved sabbatical, or some code. 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:41.000 And it moves to quite a bit of controversy. 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:45.000 But, do you have any other thoughts besides what you posted on X? 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.000 John Henry Weston is an old, old friend of mine. 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:49.000 We go way, way back. 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:51.000 We walked the pilgrimage to the Shard a couple of years together. 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:53.000 You know, went on a pilgrimage around France and whatnot. 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:55.000 So, I really want to start with that. 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:58.000 That this personally hits me right here. 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:00.000 I mean, this is, Lifeset, are you kidding me? 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:01.000 Another division? 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.000 People can't handle this anymore. 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:04.000 You know, it's just devastating. 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:05.000 Okay. 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:07.000 Do I need to find the bad guy here? 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:09.000 Well, hear me out. 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:10.000 I think it's really important. 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:13.000 Bishop Strickland wrote a beautiful statement about this. 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:17.000 You may think there's a good guy, bad guy in this scenario, but that's not the case. 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.000 There's something going on here that's a little bit more understandable. 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:24.000 We can all kind of, we can all kind of say, oh, I get it. 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:29.000 So, they came, Lifeset came, as I understand, and I don't, as I said, 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:32.000 I don't pretend to have inside baseball here. 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:35.000 I just know the players quite well and have for many years. 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:37.000 And I know how the devil works. 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:40.000 And he gets in there and he destroys people and he destroys organizations 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:43.000 and then he forms a rift and then you stay that way for 20 years 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:45.000 at war with the good guys. 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:49.000 So, I use the example when I was in the police academy of, you know, 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.000 having it really drilled home by professors that when you're called to a 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:56.000 domestic dispute and you walk into an apartment or a house and a man 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:59.000 and a woman are at each other's throats and you think, well, 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.000 obviously the man is bigger than the woman. 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:03.000 I'm going to get in there and do something to stop this guy. 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:04.000 I'm going to cuff him. 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:05.000 I'm going to take him down. 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:08.000 The teaching of the protocol for law enforcement is don't do that. 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:10.000 Do not do that. 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.000 You think you're going to take the big strong man down? 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:13.000 He's got to be wrong. 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.000 And as you're trying to wrestle him to the floor and cuff him, 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.000 you get a steak knife in the back from the woman who doesn't want you there 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.000 at all, you know. 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.000 And I kind of look at that this way. 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:22.000 Be very careful with domestics. 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.000 Be very careful with domestic disputes. 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:28.000 We're talking, of course, about Steve Jolsebeck and John Henry Weston, 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:32.000 who are the co-founders of LifeSite News. 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:34.000 LifeSite has done great work for so many years. 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:37.000 And they started out, it was all pro-family, pro-life, 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:39.000 and they did amazing stuff. 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:41.000 And they were just killing it doing that. 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:45.000 So, this is the part where we all have to be kind of patient, pray for humility, 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:47.000 pray for, you know, wisdom on how you deal with this. 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:48.000 What happened? 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:49.000 It should be obvious what happened. 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:52.000 The scandal in Rome, the scandal in the church, 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:56.000 became such that a number of people at LifeSite, including John Henry Weston, 00:02:56.000 --> 00:03:00.000 would say, well, we can't just fight abortion anymore. 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:02.000 We've got to fight the moral authority breakdown, 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:05.000 the breakdown of moral authority, the breakdown of a theological, 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:08.000 the breakdown of the Catholic Church, in other words. 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.000 That's fundamental to the whole, and he's very right on this, 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:14.000 to the whole problem with abortion, the breakup of the family. 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:16.000 It's because of the Catholic Church breakdown, of course. 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:18.000 So, there's this discussion then. 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:19.000 What do you do? 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:20.000 How far up the ladder do you go? 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:21.000 Who are you critical of? 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.000 You're critical of the priests, critical of the bishops. 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:24.000 You can take it all the way to Rome. 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:27.000 You become very critical of the Pope, and that's a fair thing. 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:30.000 I think we're probably more critical of the policies of Francis 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:32.000 than anybody else, okay? 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:38.000 So, basically, as I see it, half of the LifeSite crew said, 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:43.000 well, this is really, you know, daunting and it's confusing for our donors. 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:45.000 They're not used to being critical of the Pope. 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:48.000 They're not used to LifeSite being at odds with the Vatican 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:50.000 because, obviously, if you're in the pro-life movement, 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:51.000 you're relying on the Vatican. 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.000 They're one of the strongest pro-life movements in the world, 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:57.000 powerhouses in the world at the level of the United Nations and so forth. 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:01.000 So, this is a very legitimate thing for one half of a company to say, 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.000 I don't think we want to be doing that. 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:04.000 It's confusing our donors. 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.000 This does not make them the bad guys. 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.000 Everybody has to choose what hill they're going to die on. 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:12.000 So, as I see this thing at LifeSite, you had a number of people at LifeSite, 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:16.000 John Henry, who were pushing it in a direction that had to do with more of a 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:19.000 Catholic counter-revolution at the level of the Vatican, 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:22.000 at the level of Vatican II, at the level of liturgy. 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:27.000 And there was a large contingent of donors and people on the staff of LifeSite 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.000 who said, wait a minute, let's just stay with what brought us here 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.000 because now the numbers are not looking good. 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:32.000 We're going down. 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.000 Our people don't understand what this is all about. 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:39.000 We want to go back to what we were doing before, pro-life, pro-family, pro-God, right? 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:43.000 I think that's a perfectly legitimate debate. 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.000 And I can speak from personal experience. 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:49.000 I've told the story many times how my father had to leave his own birthright, 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:54.000 basically thrown out of his family newspaper in 1967 when I was one year old 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.000 because of the same sort of difference of opinion. 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:58.000 It's exactly the same in fact. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:02.000 The Wanderer, which is the family newspaper that had been going 100 years at this point, 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:06.000 was always staunchly in favor and in defense of the papal teachings, 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:09.000 in defense of the social teachings of the popes, right? 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:14.000 That was how they had the authority to speak in the world for 100 years against modernism, 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:16.000 by relying on the popes. 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:18.000 Something changes at Vatican II. 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:20.000 Suddenly the Wanderer, my father, was saying, 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:22.000 now we've got to go look at Vatican II. 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:23.000 We've got to look at the popes. 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:24.000 We've been infiltrated. 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:25.000 They've breached the walls. 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:27.000 The modernists have gotten into our own church. 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:31.000 Well, this was a very confusing moment for my uncle, who was partnered with my father, 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:33.000 for the readership at the time. 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.000 And so my father said, you know what I have to do? 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:38.000 I have to leave my family newspaper, which is my birthright. 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.000 I am the editor-in-chief. 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:44.000 I have to go off and start the Remnant, which is going to be in a completely different vein, 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:49.000 a different way of fighting this now that the revolution has taken it up to a different level. 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:52.000 But the thing is, I grew up in the spirit of, well, 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:56.000 there were people who thought that obedience to the pope, obedience to the council, 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:57.000 that's a Catholic thing to do. 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:59.000 Half of my family said that. 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:00.000 You have to obey the church. 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:01.000 You have to obey the council. 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:02.000 You have to obey the popes. 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.000 My father said, no, you can't. 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:05.000 This is a difference. 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:06.000 It's a crisis now. 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:09.000 Both sides are fundamentally Catholic in a normal world, in a real world, 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:11.000 in a good scenario, right? 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:13.000 And so there was this massive division. 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:17.000 And so I kind of grew up realizing that not everybody is the devil incarnate 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:19.000 for not seeing how to fight this thing. 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:22.000 The devil incarnate, the devil, the forces of hell, 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:25.000 are the ones that are blowing everything up at the top, 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:26.000 the ones that are blowing up the church, 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:29.000 the ones who are bringing in gay marriage and bringing in abortion and all these things. 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:32.000 How the Catholic warrior fights it, 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:36.000 there is room for a little bit of dispute and disagreement on that. 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:37.000 Sometimes people just don't see it. 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:40.000 Like, how can we possibly oppose the pope? 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.000 Where do we go then? 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:44.000 It's a very confusing time, in other words. 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.000 So I would say my only contribution to the life-sight civil war now is just 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:50.000 don't take sides on this. 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:52.000 John Henry is a resourceful guy. 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:53.000 He's already going off. 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:55.000 He's starting some zone kind of a thing. 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:56.000 He'll be fine. 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:58.000 He'll fight the way he wants to fight and leave. 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:02.000 I would say don't take life-sight and sort of throw it off to the left, 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:05.000 like make it the enemy and neutralize it and just say, 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:06.000 okay, we're done with you. 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.000 When what they want to do is they want to be fundamentally Catholic 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:12.000 in how they defend life and how they defend the family 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:13.000 and how they defend homeschooling. 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:17.000 These are extremely, extremely important issues. 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.000 And so I'm 100% understanding of how this happened. 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:23.000 And honestly, people go, you're a fence-sitter, Michael Madden. 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:24.000 No, I'm not a fence-sitter. 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:25.000 I see both sides. 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.000 I've lived through it all my life, both sides of how to fight this thing. 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:33.000 I would just encourage people not to vilify either side in this case. 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:36.000 It doesn't have to be a really evil plot here. 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:41.000 It's just a decision that was made at the level of the business end of this thing. 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.000 They were having trouble and they wanted to go back to the way things were. 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:45.000 That's just fines. 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.000 People say, oh, they're putting money over truth. 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:48.000 No, I run a business. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.000 We run a newspaper. 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:51.000 You know how much it costs to publish a newspaper? 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:53.000 You have to look at the bottom line. 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:55.000 You're not selling out if you say, well, 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:57.000 what can we do to make sure we don't go out of business? 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:00.000 Financially, we have to make sure we look at the bottom line as well 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:02.000 so you can continue to fight. 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:03.000 You're not being bought. 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:04.000 You're not being purchased. 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:05.000 You're being prudent. 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:06.000 You're running your newspaper. 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:10.000 You're running your life site news in a way that ensures, 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:12.000 in your opinion, in your mind, the way you see it, 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:16.000 that it will have the financial support to go on fighting for years to come 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.000 the way you want to do it. 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:21.000 There's room for discussion on how best to do that. 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:24.000 I would beg you, please, unite the clans. 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:25.000 Don't vilify life site news. 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:27.000 Pray for both sides. 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:29.000 Honestly, we need life site news. 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:33.000 We need John Henry Weston and those guys to continue to do their thing. 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:38.000 I would kind of leave it at that because there is this problem where people 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:40.000 get to the point where they say, well, 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:42.000 I don't think Francis was the pope anymore. 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:45.000 That becomes a very divisive thing, but there are good sides. 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:50.000 Just as there were saints on both sides of the Avignon captivity when the 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.000 papacy was in France, and there was great division in Christendom, 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.000 and there were saints on both sides. 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:58.000 Well, I don't attack the state of a conscience. 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:03.000 If they in conscience believe that Francis or now Leo is not the pope, 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.000 that's for them, and I leave them alone. 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:07.000 They do a lot of it, kind of going after me a little bit, 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.000 but I think the crisis, 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:12.000 the reason there's dispute over whether or not the pope is the pope is because 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:14.000 of the crisis in the church. 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:17.000 It's because of the scandal at the level of the Vatican and how we, 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:19.000 the small people, the little people, the sheep, 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:22.000 how we react to that scandal. 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:23.000 It's going to vary. 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.000 It's going to be dramatically different, 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:27.000 but we need in our minds to try to pray, 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:30.000 to keep everybody together and understand everybody's trying to do the best 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:34.000 they can to be truly Catholic, to preserve the faith, 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:37.000 and some of these issues are not going to be resolved overnight, 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:40.000 but we don't necessarily have to vilify those who don't see it exactly as we 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:43.000 do, and I think there's some of that in LifeSite News. 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:47.000 I've seen some of their people doing podcasts since basically saying one of 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:50.000 the big issues was we began to wonder if Francis was the pope. 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.000 Okay, that's a terrible, that's a hard thing. 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:57.000 It's a crisis to come to that position in your own life as a media guy, 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:00.000 as a journalist or whatever, and so we need to be patient. 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:01.000 We need to have conversations. 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:05.000 We need to pray for each other, and I think don't drive the wedge any further 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:06.000 than it needs to. 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.000 As I say, we need LifeSite News. 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:11.000 We need both sides in this case to continue the fight, 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:15.000 and that's where I stand on that. 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:16.000 Okay, so on Friday morning, 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:20.000 Google took down a traditional Catholic blog, Mesa en Latina, 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.000 and we have something on the newspaper about this, 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:27.000 but Google informed the owners of the blog that they were going to a paid 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:30.000 speech, so I'm sure you have a lot of thoughts on that. 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:32.000 Well, you see what I mean? 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:34.000 This is why we need each other. 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.000 This is why we need to unite the clans, 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:39.000 even if we don't have lockstep agreement with everyone on every strategic 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.000 point, right? 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:46.000 We need the largest body that we possibly can have and we can muster to 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:47.000 resist this. 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:50.000 This is an unbelievably scary thing that happened. 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:53.000 This is quote unquote Catholic Italy, and Google just says, 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:55.000 we're done, your hate speech. 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:57.000 You're out. 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.000 No due process. 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:02.000 It's just the end, and it's a very legitimate blog. 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:05.000 They have great sources in the Vatican itself. 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:10.000 They're not bomb throwers at all, so you can see the writing on the wall. 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:14.000 We were discussing that just last week when the FBI got involved with 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:16.000 traditional Catholics here in this country, 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.000 came this close to having that go way out of control with infiltration of 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.000 Latin mass parishes. 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:27.000 The Remnant newspaper designated a hate group back in 2007 by the same group, 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.000 Southern Poverty Law Center. 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:32.000 This stuff is happening, and it's only going to get worse, 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:34.000 and everybody has to understand how serious it is, 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:38.000 how close we are to all the major voices who are defending truth in the 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:42.000 world, whether it's missing in Latino or whoever it is, the Remnant, 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.000 LifeSite, whatever. 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:47.000 LifeSite up in Canada, I'm surprised LifeSite got away with as much as they 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:51.000 did so far from operating up and having a base in Canada, 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:53.000 originating in Canada. 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:56.000 I know they're in front world now, but in other words, 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:00.000 the Canadian thing, I'm surprised that wasn't shut down a long time ago in 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:02.000 Canada, the People's Republic of Canada. 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:07.000 So, yeah, this is unbelievable, but not at all surprising. 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:11.000 We've been fighting it for a long time, and all the more, as I say, 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:14.000 all the more so, we need to understand where we're at. 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:18.000 The persecution is coming, and wherever possible, 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:24.000 do not banish and vilify people with whom you can say the creed, 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.000 people who love the Latin mass, people who want doctrinal and liturgical 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:30.000 integrity in the church, people who want to defend homeschool. 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.000 We've got to keep the coalition together no matter what, 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:35.000 even if they don't see it exactly as we do. 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.000 I think it's really important to do that. 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:40.000 Now that the noose is tightening, we've got this new Gestapo, 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:43.000 namely the internet, Google, right, 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:47.000 able to simply make people disappear again overnight and for no reason. 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:52.000 Stay together, unite the clans, absolutely essential right now to 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:53.000 understand that. 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:57.000 So last weekend you covered the leaked Vatican documents regarding the 00:12:57.000 --> 00:13:01.000 questionnaire that formed the admitted basis for Traditiones 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:03.000 But this week, there's even more to that story. 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:07.000 James Rimini-Royo interviewing Diane Rantagnier just yesterday. 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.000 Diane, your blockbuster exclusive last week revealed that, in fact, 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:15.000 the bishops of the world did not have a problem with wide celebration of 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:17.000 the Latin mass in their dioceses. 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:23.000 Yet in both Traditiones Custodas and the accompanying letter banning, 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:25.000 all but banning, the traditional mass, 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:29.000 Pope Francis emphatically states that the survey results carried out by the 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:32.000 CDF, the Doctrine Office of the Vatican, 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:36.000 and summarized in their report were central to his decision. 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:38.000 Raymond Arroyo would not say that. 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:39.000 I'm just going to leave it at that. 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.000 Raymond Arroyo would not have set that up like he did. 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:44.000 He put his entire reputation, remember this is a Fox News guy, 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:48.000 this is a WTN guy, this is, you know, Raymond's got his own program. 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.000 Extremely well-connected guy. 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:53.000 If this were not true, friends, let's just be, let's cut to the chase. 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:57.000 If this wasn't exactly as Diane Rantagnier reported it, 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:59.000 Raymond Arroyo would not be doing shows like this. 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:00.000 So let's just get past this idea. 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:02.000 Well, maybe there's more to this story. 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:03.000 There isn't. 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:04.000 This is the whole thing. 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:05.000 It's the whole thing. 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:06.000 God bless Diane. 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.000 Don't forget Diane will be at the Catholic Identity Conference in 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:09.000 Pittsburgh in October. 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:12.000 So if you want to meet her and see more and hear more on this. 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:13.000 Huge, huge story. 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.000 Make sure you sign up for the CIC. 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:19.000 But I think we can go back and forth, but we don't need to. 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:20.000 We did a show on it last week. 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:23.000 Tess, maybe you or Walter can put that link down from last week's show, 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:25.000 which was all about this story. 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:32.000 Basically the fact that the Vatican lied in order to cancel the Latin mass. 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:36.000 The story, Tess, I'm going to leave it at this because we don't have all day. 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:41.000 The story, the takeaway from this, in my opinion, there's two. 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:44.000 Obviously, first and foremost, give us the Latin mass back because it was 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:46.000 taken away on the basis of a lie. 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:52.000 Secondly, and almost as importantly, this is synodality exposed. 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:57.000 Absolutely exposed because at every level, whether it's blessing gay unions 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:01.000 or having divorced and remarried Catholics come back to the sacraments, 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:05.000 even though they're unrepentant, which we saw in Amoris Laetitiae, 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:09.000 the Dubia, Cardinal Burke, the four cardinals, what they were talking, 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:11.000 what they were objecting to. 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:16.000 On every single issue that the modernists, the progressives, 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:19.000 the globalists inside the Vatican, especially over the past 12 years 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:23.000 or the Francis pontificate, on every issue that they want changed, 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:28.000 they tell the world they are listening to the people who are victimized, 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:32.000 the people who need to have the church fulfill a more important role in their lives. 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:34.000 The church is talking past them. 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:37.000 All we're doing is listening to the voice of the people. 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:38.000 We are the listening church. 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:40.000 We are the accompanying church. 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:44.000 This thing with Traduciones Consolas absolutely rips the mask off that. 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.000 That is absolutely a lie. 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:48.000 They do it every single time. 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:51.000 We're only doing what we're told by the sheep. 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:54.000 We are good and faithful shepherds doing what we're told. 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:59.000 In this case, it's so much worse because the people who they're lying about 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:03.000 are bishops, princes of the church, who said to the Holy Father, 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:04.000 do not change this. 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:07.000 It's going to cause more harm than good to get rid of the Latin mass. 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.000 We're perfectly content with it. 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:10.000 Leave it alone. 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:12.000 The majority of bishops said that. 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:15.000 And yet in the spirit of synodality, the Vatican is able to say, 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.000 well, the bishops have spoken, 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:20.000 and we need to get rid of the Latin mass now. 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:21.000 That is a lie. 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.000 And synodality does that time and time again. 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.000 Believe me, I've been to every single, I covered as a journalist, 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:31.000 every single synod in Rome on synodality. 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:32.000 I've seen it. 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:33.000 I've watched it. 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:35.000 They set this thing up every single time. 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:36.000 We're only doing what we're told. 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:39.000 So I would encourage every blogger out there, every writer, 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:42.000 every newspaper, when you talk about this story, say, okay, 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:44.000 so much for synodality. 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:47.000 It is absolute Barbara Streisand. 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:48.000 It's not true. 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:50.000 It's the same MO every single time. 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:52.000 And this one is just like off the charts. 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:56.000 As I say, guys like Raymond Royer was saying, yep, they lied. 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:59.000 And then they claimed that in the spirit of synodality, they had to act. 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:01.000 And that's how synodality works. 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:04.000 And that's why synodality needs to be rejected out of hand. 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:07.000 Your holiness. 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:12.000 So shifting gears, Joe Rogan's finally cut up to you on Israel and Gaza. 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.000 What they've done to Gaza is insane. 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:15.000 It's insane. 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:17.000 And if you can't see that, if you can't say that, 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:21.000 and your response is Israel has the right to defend itself. 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:22.000 What are you talking about? 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:23.000 Against what? 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:24.000 Children? 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:26.000 Against women and children that are getting blown apart? 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:28.000 Against aid workers that are getting killed? 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:29.000 Yeah. 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:30.000 What are you talking about? 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:36.000 We can't have a rational conversation if you're not willing to address that. 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:37.000 It's insane. 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.000 And no one wants to talk about it. 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:40.000 Right. 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:43.000 And if you do talk about it, you're anti-Semitic, which is so strange. 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:46.000 I don't know how they wrangled that. 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:47.000 Yeah. 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.000 I mean, again, don't forget. 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:51.000 Rogan had Trump on his show. 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:53.000 Rogan was instrumental in getting Trump in the White House. 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:55.000 So this is not an ever-Trumper, you know. 00:17:55.000 --> 00:18:03.000 But Trump's, I mean, yeah, he's saying what we have been saying since the very beginning. 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:05.000 This is not about October 7th. 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:07.000 It goes back years and years and years and years. 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:09.000 I couldn't believe he used those words. 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.000 You're anti-Semitic if you criticize it. 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:15.000 The only answer is, your only response is, there's a right to defend ourselves. 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.000 It's just become so dumb. 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:24.000 And I like to think that traditional Catholics now, which obviously this audience has made up a lot of traditional Catholics, 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:31.000 that we would be like the first to be admitting now what so many conservatives and so many Rogan types and so many people are saying, 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:34.000 wait a minute, we can't justify this anymore, you know. 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:38.000 So Rogan is an honest, you know, just saying what people have been saying for a long time. 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:44.000 And I think it's really incumbent on traditional Catholics to say, yeah, well, this is simply not godly. 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.000 This is not of Jesus Christ. 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:48.000 This is wrong, right. 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:50.000 And to acknowledge that Donald Trump is in a pinch. 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:53.000 I mean, he's in the White House right now. 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:58.000 One of his strongest backers, obviously, was the state of Israel. 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:04.000 So if you really love Donald Trump, you can still kind of have a certain affinity toward him or a little sympathy toward him. 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:09.000 That, yeah, he's got to do Israel's bidding at the moment because they were extremely instrumental in getting him in. 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:10.000 And it doesn't make any sense. 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:13.000 And it doesn't help to deny that. 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:17.000 And it also is, it should be sort of challenging for us in a good way. 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:20.000 Let's stand up and do the right thing. 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:24.000 We saw him say of Israel that they don't know what the blank they're doing. 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:25.000 He lost his temper at Israel. 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:35.000 I still think if enough of us would get off our duffs and stop being little fanboys of Trump and say the right thing and encourage him like Rogan's doing and Tucker's doing. 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:37.000 Traditional Catholics should be right in there. 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:38.000 Come on. 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:40.000 What are you doing, sir? 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:42.000 This has got to stop. 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:45.000 I think that the situation maybe still could change. 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:46.000 Maybe not. 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:47.000 I know a lot of people say there's no way. 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.000 He's never going to change, not on Israel. 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:54.000 Well, it's kind of looking scary right now because he's backing Israel in everything that they're doing. 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:55.000 He's flip flopping. 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:56.000 He seems uncertain. 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.000 He's going to send more weapons. 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:01.000 He is sending more weapons to Ukraine. 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:07.000 And what you have there as a result is really the threat of breaking up that coalition. 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:10.000 And you've got to start asking yourself, what happens if the coalition falls apart? 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:14.000 Those of you who are really excited about MAGA, what happens if it falls apart? 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:23.000 Can you imagine the vengeance in which the Democrats are going to come roaring back if that coalition falls apart? 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:24.000 We have a vested interest. 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:30.000 Right now, a la Dan Bongino, who's a Catholic guy, they forced him to lie about Epstein. 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:35.000 And now he's like, man, I'm going to quit, threatening to quit because he was so uncomfortable in that position of having to lie about Epstein. 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:39.000 Okay, I think Bongino's an example of a guy who's going to do the right thing. 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:41.000 Okay, let's all of us do the right thing right out of the gate. 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:42.000 Speak your mind. 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:50.000 Don't boycott people like us who have been speaking our mind and I think speaking the truth about this right from the start. 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:52.000 This is not an attack on you. 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:53.000 It's not even an attack on Donald Trump. 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:58.000 It's just trying to be truthful of what's going on in the world right now, especially in the Mideast. 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.000 That's why we quote guys like Jeffrey Sachs. 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:03.000 He's no friend of ours, no traditional Catholic, right? 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:05.000 But he's speaking the truth about what's happening there. 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:10.000 All of us should be forming a coalition of truth when it comes to what's happening in the Mideast. 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:13.000 So maybe we can save that coalition. 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:21.000 So maybe we can save our country and not have Israel just trash and destroy our country like they've been destroying the Middle East for years, for decades. 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:22.000 Right? That's the point of this. 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.000 And I think somebody like Rogan who had again had Trump on his show. 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:30.000 He helped Trump get elected for him to come out and say, wait a minute. 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:35.000 What's going on here is a really good sign of an awakening that something has to change over there. 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:37.000 And as I say, traditional Catholics, guys, come on. 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:39.000 We should be leading that charge. 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:45.000 We know this is not justifiable. 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:51.000 The coalition, the MAGA movement does seem very divided over Epstein as well. 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:56.000 So it's been called the last straw by basically all the highest viewed conservative podcasters. 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:01.000 So let's get your reaction after these clips. 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:05.000 What else could be the explanation for what is going on with the MAGA movement? 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:06.000 And we have to confront this. 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.000 We have to be honest about this left or right. 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:09.000 Don't be an idiot. 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:12.000 The Epstein thing is a bridge too far. 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:13.000 OK, it's just a bridge too far. 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:15.000 Anyone that's not telling you that is lying to you. 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.000 The Epstein thing is nuts. 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:24.000 It's nuts that they put that woman in jail for sex trafficking to no one. 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:28.000 You know, the trail of this entire thing just enrages me. 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:30.000 It actually enrages me. 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.000 I don't think you're alone. 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:37.000 And I do think as someone who voted for the president, campaigned for the president a lot. 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:39.000 I'm not attacking the president. 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:47.000 But I think even people who are fully on board with, you know, the bulk of the MAGA agenda are like, this is too much. 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:48.000 Yes. Yes. 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.000 It's beyond insane. 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:53.000 You couldn't try to hurt yourself worse. 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:58.000 You couldn't try to discredit the FBI worse than what they've done. 00:22:58.000 --> 00:22:59.000 Pam Bondi, all of it. 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:01.000 All those videos were saying, yeah, she's seen the videos. 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:02.000 It's all coming out. 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:03.000 And then now it doesn't exist. 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:04.000 I mean, what? 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:05.000 What? 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:12.000 No one was closer in U.S. politics to Jeffrey Epstein than Donald Trump. 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:18.000 Why did anyone think that Donald Trump was going to be the one to expose the Epstein network? 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.000 Well, they were dupes. 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:27.000 Now, again, yes, at the top of the show tonight, you know, when I think about the, you know, the breakup of LifeSite. 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:29.000 When I look at this, too, it's sad, isn't it? 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:31.000 I mean, there was such potential. 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:34.000 And you can see people are really disillusioned. 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:35.000 They've really had enough of this. 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:41.000 And I like to think that maybe if we had held our ground on some of these issues early on, it wouldn't have had to get to this point. 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:44.000 Because the reality is there's a problem with truth. 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:47.000 And we have to insist on our political leaders. 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:55.000 I mean, I always say we never saw Donald Trump as the second coming of Jesus Christ, the guy who was going to lead us out of bondage into the promise. 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:56.000 We just never saw that. 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.000 You know, maybe we can talk about that at the end of the show tonight. 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:17.000 When they came out and basically stripped the Republican platform of most of the most meaningful Christian moral principles, the planks that had to do with the things that matter most to God and man, 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:24.000 you began to see a fudging of the truth, a politicization of this conservative thing that I just couldn't believe it was happening. 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:27.000 I know a lot of people in this audience couldn't believe it was happening. 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:34.000 When they came out and said, well, Kamala Harris, she's Planned Parenthood, and we don't like that, but we want abortion pills. 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.000 We approve abortion pills, which is exactly what they said. 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:40.000 Now the abortion numbers are going up right now. 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.000 Did you know that? 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:42.000 They're going up. 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:43.000 Why? 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:44.000 Because they don't need Planned Parenthood as much anymore. 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:45.000 Defund Planned Parenthood? 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:46.000 Why not? 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:48.000 They're radical left looners. 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:49.000 Of course defund them. 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.000 That doesn't take all that much political savvy to do that. 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.000 And the problem is now you have chemical abortions. 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:59.000 You have little girls in their bathrooms killing their babies privately. 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:02.000 This is a horrific, horrific thing. 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:09.000 When Melania Trump came out and famously said, my husband is the first man, the first president to enter the White House in favor of gay marriage. 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:12.000 I was just like, oh, my gosh. 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.000 We know where this leads. 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:18.000 We know where it leads biblically, you know, for civilizations. 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:20.000 We know where it leads historically. 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:30.000 When we begin to break down the natural law, we begin to sort of shove it aside and decide we're going to go for things like abortion, infanticide, gay marriage, IVF, all these things. 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:38.000 There's going to be a deception that's going to make you susceptible to the father of lies in a new and special way. 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:41.000 And so what we've always said is we can never become them. 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:46.000 And that was basically the basis of our debate over the last election. 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:47.000 And I understood. 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:48.000 I had a lot of friends. 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:49.000 They're little kids. 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:55.000 And I can't have my children taken away by Kamala Harris and these lunatic Tim Walz types. 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.000 And I completely get that. 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:03.000 So what we have to do for the sake of the movement, for the sake of ourselves and our children, is take it away from the personal. 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.000 Nobody's saying, well, if you voted for Donald Trump, that's your fault, man. 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:07.000 I didn't vote for him. 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:09.000 Nobody's saying that on this show. 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:14.000 All of us are saying diabolical disorientation is real. 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:17.000 The good cop, bad cop thing that's going on in politics is real. 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:18.000 It's very deceptive. 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.000 All of us are trying to do the right thing for our kids and for our country. 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.000 Stop personalizing. 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:24.000 Stop the tribalism. 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:31.000 Stop blaming people who, in a moment of fear or just taking a chance, I'm going to take a chance with Trump over this crazy hag. 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.000 Fine. 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.000 I didn't vote for Donald Trump. 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.000 And I had a lot of friends who did. 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:36.000 We're not in each other's throats. 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:37.000 That's not what this is about. 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:47.000 But when you come along now and you see things like the deceit, the raw deceit over the Epstein thing, it's not surprising. 00:26:48.000 --> 00:27:00.000 Because if you have politicians who are willing to say, yeah, we want to kill 61% of the babies, we want to do it with abortion pills in this country, that is going to cause a problem. 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:01.000 And it's heartbreaking. 00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:02.000 You know what I mean? 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.000 Nobody likes to talk about this. 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.000 Everybody wants it to be better. 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.000 Everyone projects. 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:13.000 I remember one time some dear heart left a comment about Donald Trump and Elon Musk. 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:18.000 And she said, Donald and Elon are saving God's angel babies together. 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:23.000 Now, this is truly heartbreaking. 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:25.000 Because all she's doing is trying to do the right thing. 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.000 All she wants is the right thing. 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:28.000 God bless her for it. 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:29.000 You know what I mean? 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:40.000 But to think that Elon Musk and Donald Trump are truly trying to save God's angel babies is absolutely mind boggling. 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.000 That's not their thing. 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:43.000 And we now know that. 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.000 Musk and Trump are in each other's throats. 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.000 And that's another big division, source of division. 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:50.000 And abortion never really meant anything to either one of those guys. 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.000 It was always politics all along. 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:57.000 So, yeah, I think that MAGA coming apart at the seams right now. 00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.000 There may be a way of fixing it. 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.000 I've given talks to MAGA rallies and whatnot. 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:07.000 I see these good old boys on their dirt bikes and on their four wheelers and red, white, and blue all the way through. 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.000 Those guys are beautiful human beings. 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:11.000 Those guys are the salt of the earth. 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:14.000 And there are millions of them who don't really get that involved in politics. 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:18.000 They just wanted Donald Trump to stop these stupid wars, right? 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:19.000 To do the right thing. 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:20.000 To put America first. 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:25.000 It was a very simple and understandable and beautiful agenda that they had. 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:26.000 And now they're shattered. 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.000 They're destroyed. 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:30.000 You've got Alex Jones crying out there over all this. 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:37.000 And I would say, as traditional Catholics, we don't have to cry over it because we never saw that. 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.000 We're not in that game. 00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:41.000 We talk past each other, I think, sometimes. 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.000 You look at politics, you say, we're living in the world. 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:45.000 We've got to make the best of it. 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:46.000 Let's hope and pray for the best. 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:47.000 Maybe we can even vote for these guys sometimes. 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:51.000 But never mistake them for the ultimate solution. 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.000 Never mistake them for champions of Christ the King. 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:59.000 Or for champions of Christianity who understand that the only way out of here is through truth. 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.000 Through Christian truth. 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.000 The proclamation of Jesus Christ. 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.000 I don't blame Donald Trump for not getting any of that. 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:08.000 I'm just saying he doesn't get any of that. 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:09.000 And he never really has. 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:14.000 There's this video floating around that Musk, I think, tweeted not too long ago. 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.000 And then pulled it down. 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:20.000 Trump and Mar-a-Lago some years ago. 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:21.000 Do we have that, Walter? 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.000 Can we throw that up real quick? 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:25.000 Because it kind of gets to what I'm talking about. 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.000 This is not a daily communicant. 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:30.000 Trump goes to greet three new guests. 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.000 Among them, the financier Jeffrey Epstein. 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:38.000 More than a decade before his guilty plea on state prostitution charges. 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:42.000 Later in the footage, Trump is seen talking to Epstein and another man. 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.000 As women are dancing in front of him. 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:53.000 The footage, shot in November of 1992, before Trump opened the resort as a club. 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:59.000 Shows the future president surrounded by cheerleaders for the Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins. 00:29:59.990 --> 00:30:07.910 Trump's fun-loving bachelor lifestyle. Trump says something else into Epstein's ear that makes him double over with 00:30:07.990 --> 00:30:10.550 laughter, but as the president says now 00:30:11.230 --> 00:30:16.590 He never liked Epstein. I was not a fan of his that I can tell you I was not a fan of his 00:30:17.430 --> 00:30:20.110 You can see what that is. What if I was dancing around like that? 00:30:20.110 --> 00:30:22.870 What if I had a bunch of Buffalo Bills cheerleaders in here? 00:30:23.430 --> 00:30:26.870 You know and we're checking out the attributes and whatnot, right? 00:30:27.030 --> 00:30:30.550 Now I don't say this because I think we need to ergo ergo condemn the man 00:30:30.550 --> 00:30:33.110 I'm trying to say this to show you they're on the other side 00:30:34.030 --> 00:30:35.150 Democrats Republicans 00:30:35.150 --> 00:30:37.990 They're all on the other side if you have a truly 00:30:38.350 --> 00:30:43.350 Christocentric view of what you're supposed to what we're supposed to do right now how we're supposed to fight behind enemy lines 00:30:43.390 --> 00:30:45.070 They're all kind of over there 00:30:45.070 --> 00:30:49.710 One or two of them like a Trump may do enough good where we can kind of support that hope for the best 00:30:49.790 --> 00:30:51.790 But don't ever mistake them 00:30:52.110 --> 00:30:57.550 For the good guys and now and now you have this this deceit with the Epstein thing everybody knows 00:30:57.550 --> 00:30:59.590 It's a lie. Everybody's sick and tired of it 00:30:59.590 --> 00:31:03.110 But if you if you're not a defender or champion of the truth 00:31:03.110 --> 00:31:08.270 You think you can bend the truth as they're doing right now and people are gonna fall for it 00:31:08.270 --> 00:31:10.670 Well, we're not gonna fall for it and lots of people are gonna fall for it 00:31:10.670 --> 00:31:14.750 So as disappointing as it is that MAGA is having this big civil war right now 00:31:14.750 --> 00:31:20.110 I think it's a good thing. God bless America that you have people you think the Democrats would do this 00:31:20.110 --> 00:31:26.470 Have you ever seen the Democrats turn against one of their own wingnuts like Al Gore Clinton and Obama when he's blowing everything? 00:31:26.470 --> 00:31:30.350 I'd be having stupid Democrats are lockstep. Oh, he's perfect. Look what they did with Biden 00:31:30.350 --> 00:31:36.790 He's in the he's in the White House farting dust. He's half dead. He's doing nothing that oh, he's a fantastic president 00:31:36.790 --> 00:31:40.870 He's the best cognitively. He's right on you see that's how they work, right? 00:31:40.870 --> 00:31:46.710 And I'm really proud of the Americans and of this these these MAGA people that we just talked to who are saying wait a minute 00:31:46.710 --> 00:31:50.830 No truth matters to us. We're gonna fight right and that's all it ever was 00:31:50.830 --> 00:31:55.070 That's what we were doing down here in the run-up to the election when we had our unfortunate 00:31:55.070 --> 00:31:57.070 You know disagreement with a lot of our own friends 00:31:57.430 --> 00:32:02.750 Trying to defend truth as best we can as everybody was everybody is I would say if you want a little bit of hope 00:32:02.830 --> 00:32:07.950 The cracks in the MAGA thing are actually kind of hopeful because what it says is we're gonna stand for truth 00:32:07.950 --> 00:32:11.190 We're gonna we're not going to be bamboozled and just you know 00:32:11.190 --> 00:32:17.150 Treated like fools and lied to even by our guy Trump who we had a lot of hope in and we spent a lot of 00:32:17.150 --> 00:32:18.510 Time and a lot of money 00:32:18.510 --> 00:32:22.670 Supporting. I think that's a good sign. So that's where I would stand on on the MAGA thing 00:32:26.150 --> 00:32:28.150 Yeah 00:32:28.590 --> 00:32:33.710 Yeah, man, I mean I I'm not getting out of bed if I don't have any hope of course I have hope and I would 00:32:33.710 --> 00:32:39.670 Think you know in closing that on all these different stories all these things. We need to have supernatural hope and we're there 00:32:39.830 --> 00:32:43.070 We're the ones who defend that we still understand that theology 00:32:43.070 --> 00:32:49.030 And I would say that there's a practical thing for us to mull over it. I guess if you there's any takeaway 00:32:49.710 --> 00:32:51.230 for viewers tonight 00:32:51.230 --> 00:32:56.550 The the practical part of this would be the idea of the small are remnant 00:32:56.550 --> 00:33:00.390 I published a newspaper called the remnant capital are that's what my newspaper 00:33:00.390 --> 00:33:05.230 Hope you'll subscribe to that by the way, but it's based on the small are remnant the remnant of Israel 00:33:05.750 --> 00:33:07.750 St. Paul 00:33:07.790 --> 00:33:10.790 Quoting Elias, you know a long long time ago 00:33:10.790 --> 00:33:18.190 This is this goes back a long way Elias saying, you know, they they seek our lives. They have torn down our altars 00:33:18.870 --> 00:33:21.030 we feel abandoned by God and 00:33:21.550 --> 00:33:27.230 If they seek our to literally eliminate us and God says to Elias 00:33:27.230 --> 00:33:32.870 He says I have left you 7,000. I have left you a remnant selected out of grace, right? 00:33:32.990 --> 00:33:36.710 I will protect that right now those people who are part of that remnant of Christendom 00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:45.150 Remnant of believers are not necessarily there because of their own incredible wits or intelligence or even holiness. They're selected out of grace 00:33:45.830 --> 00:33:47.830 We read in scripture in st. Paul and Romans 00:33:48.390 --> 00:33:53.550 So what we do is we aspire to be part of that remnant and I've tried this before and it feels like 00:33:53.990 --> 00:33:56.270 The world is getting so crazy people can't necessarily 00:33:56.950 --> 00:34:02.790 grasp these concepts anymore because we're afraid and bombs going off and people are killing kids and then eating them and everything is 00:34:03.110 --> 00:34:07.710 So so evil, but I do think it's important for us to think about that 00:34:07.710 --> 00:34:10.430 Do we want to be part of the small our remnant or not? 00:34:10.870 --> 00:34:17.190 Now you you might not even be holy enough or good enough to be selected by God under in grace to be part of that 00:34:17.190 --> 00:34:22.470 But do we want to be part of that remnant? It's not an arrogant thing to say. It's a it's a challenge 00:34:22.670 --> 00:34:28.470 Will we be part of that 7,000 that God set aside and if you're part of the small our remnant 00:34:28.910 --> 00:34:31.550 Politics the two-party system Republicans versus Democrat 00:34:33.030 --> 00:34:38.870 It becomes almost trivial and that's hard to hear because then some people say well, then you're just opting out of everything, man 00:34:38.870 --> 00:34:41.110 You're just gonna let the enemy crush you you're gonna they're gonna win 00:34:41.990 --> 00:34:47.390 The thing is friends if you truly pray and if you work at it, and if you understand 00:34:47.910 --> 00:34:54.470 What it means to be part of that remnant of believers who are left over you feel empowered and you feel strengthened 00:34:54.470 --> 00:34:56.470 How is it that we keep getting everything right? 00:34:56.470 --> 00:35:03.150 When it comes to Israel, Ukraine, the first Iraq war, the second Iraq war, COVID, the vaccinations 00:35:03.150 --> 00:35:08.550 How is it that we on this show? Right? I think most people would agree. Why are you guys always like ahead of everybody else? 00:35:08.550 --> 00:35:10.550 Well, there's nothing to do with it with this 00:35:10.550 --> 00:35:16.470 It has to do with an appreciation for the remnant. The remnant has to follow different rules 00:35:16.470 --> 00:35:22.150 The remnant has to be content without the big victories. We have to be content without the big heroes, right? 00:35:22.150 --> 00:35:24.150 So we look at a Donald Trump. We say well 00:35:24.150 --> 00:35:26.150 I see the failings 00:35:26.150 --> 00:35:31.430 But maybe he can help the cause and that's the terms. That's the caveat 00:35:31.430 --> 00:35:36.310 That's what we were talking back in 2016. Maybe on some level he can buy us a little time, you know 00:35:36.950 --> 00:35:39.670 That's much different than saying he is going to lead us 00:35:40.230 --> 00:35:44.950 Out of bondage into the promised land. He can't so I'm not blaming Donald Trump 00:35:44.950 --> 00:35:49.830 I'm beating up on Donald Trump. The small our remnant knows that ultimately keeping the faith 00:35:49.910 --> 00:35:53.190 The small our remnant knows that ultimately keeping the faith 00:35:54.230 --> 00:35:57.270 This is the thing that that as I said so many times god 00:35:57.510 --> 00:35:59.590 God says he would save sodom for 10 men 00:35:59.590 --> 00:36:01.670 What are the 10 men of sodom 10 just men? 00:36:01.830 --> 00:36:06.950 The 10 just men of sodom are the small remnant in that particular time in that particular area those cities 00:36:07.190 --> 00:36:11.770 The little remnant of people have been faithful to god. He was going to save them our salvation 00:36:13.030 --> 00:36:14.870 our salvation 00:36:14.870 --> 00:36:20.310 Is in an understanding developing a spiritual and a theological understanding of remnant, what does it mean? 00:36:20.790 --> 00:36:22.310 It means we're not like them 00:36:22.310 --> 00:36:24.550 It means we also are not going to have the big victory laps 00:36:24.550 --> 00:36:28.150 Like sometimes they're going to have they're going to have the big heroes who are changing the world 00:36:28.230 --> 00:36:30.710 Right and beating everybody up and throwing bombs all right 00:36:31.510 --> 00:36:33.510 We're not going to have that we're going to exist 00:36:33.830 --> 00:36:39.750 Exist as this little group set aside who knows that our victory is in keeping the faith 00:36:39.990 --> 00:36:44.950 And that's what I meant several shows ago when I said that all they care about is is destroying hope in us 00:36:45.270 --> 00:36:51.830 Which means all we can care about our top priority is keeping hope alive and that's a very different political agenda 00:36:51.910 --> 00:36:56.550 So i'm not shocked. I'm not destroyed by what's happening with trump. It's kind of falling apart a little bit right now 00:36:56.790 --> 00:37:02.410 Oh, you know humanly speaking. He was trying to do something, but i'm not shocked or surprised nor am I depressed? 00:37:02.710 --> 00:37:06.150 Nor am I without hope it's like we're right back where we were. It's the same with leo 00:37:06.550 --> 00:37:10.390 People say, you know, you're wishful thinking man. You're trying to make pope, you know leo into something 00:37:10.390 --> 00:37:12.390 He's not no it's where we've always been 00:37:12.710 --> 00:37:17.190 We're just praying or hoping we're going to keep the faith hoping that leo might help on some level if he doesn't 00:37:17.510 --> 00:37:21.270 We're still down here in the catacombs. We're still going to keep the faith and that's what it's all about 00:37:21.270 --> 00:37:22.790 That's what the small r remnant means 00:37:22.790 --> 00:37:23.670 You see what I mean? 00:37:23.670 --> 00:37:28.390 Once you condition yourself to think about it in a completely different way. I'm part of the remnant 00:37:28.390 --> 00:37:31.910 Maybe maybe i'm part of the round. They can't touch you anymore 00:37:32.470 --> 00:37:35.430 They can't hurt you anymore. It doesn't matter what they do 00:37:36.070 --> 00:37:39.270 Ultimately even even if you want to tell the stories of the martyrs 00:37:39.670 --> 00:37:44.390 Even if they kill you even if they persecute us and put us to death like they're putting christians to death all over the world 00:37:44.790 --> 00:37:49.110 You still win. That's where victory is for you because that's what we're here for 00:37:49.750 --> 00:37:50.950 the whole 00:37:50.950 --> 00:37:56.470 Theology behind the small r remnant, you know where it comes from or how it can be summed up baltimore catechism 00:37:56.550 --> 00:38:00.150 Why did god make you god made me to know him to love him and serve him in this world be happy with him forever 00:38:00.470 --> 00:38:03.990 In the next you know what? It doesn't say god made me to make america great again 00:38:05.830 --> 00:38:07.830 That's not what it says 00:38:07.910 --> 00:38:09.910 He said that the purpose 00:38:10.470 --> 00:38:12.470 Why he made it why he created us 00:38:12.870 --> 00:38:18.470 Is to serve him to love him to know him to serve him if you do that and we need to do this together 00:38:18.630 --> 00:38:20.870 That's what unite the clans is all about if you do that 00:38:21.350 --> 00:38:25.990 You're bulletproof. You're indestructible. They can never break your heart. They can never break your spirit 00:38:25.990 --> 00:38:28.470 They can never break your will they can never take hope from you 00:38:28.950 --> 00:38:31.990 If you do that and that's the conversation because we all need help with that 00:38:32.070 --> 00:38:37.830 It requires faith to be part of the remnant it requires courage and it requires a company of just men 00:38:38.150 --> 00:38:43.590 It requires the clans to come together say yes, let's do this. Let's never become them 00:38:43.910 --> 00:38:46.950 We can do this together right and then we win 00:38:47.590 --> 00:38:52.710 And it's a really beautiful way to live. You're never devastated destroyed by politics 00:38:52.790 --> 00:38:56.310 You're never brokenhearted. You're never crying your eyes out like poor alex jones was 00:38:56.870 --> 00:38:59.350 You're never surprised you just keep pushing on 00:39:00.230 --> 00:39:02.230 So I would say you know 00:39:02.790 --> 00:39:04.790 I want to have I want to continue to have that discussion 00:39:04.870 --> 00:39:07.670 You know about the small r remnant what it really means to keep the faith 00:39:08.070 --> 00:39:11.190 What it means to keep hope alive and what it means to keep stay together 00:39:11.830 --> 00:39:16.710 For our own protection so they can never ever touch us and we never become them 00:39:17.510 --> 00:39:19.510 That's it 00:39:29.350 --> 00:39:31.990 You